Definitely a rung or two up the difficulty ladder. Many of the classic Alpine treks come into this category. Here we have high mountains with long ascents to cols and passes often hovering around the 3,000m mark. Consequently walking days are longer; paths can be rough, steep with some exposure. Early in the season expect snow patches at higher altitudes. A good level of fitness and some previous mountain experience are necessary.

Ventures at this grade are 'Tough Treks' on steroids. The biggest difference is usually the addition of greater height and length with all the subsequent ramifications these bring. There is often greater exposure with some technical sections requiring a 'steady head' and occasional use of rope for safeguarding. There is also a greater wilderness feel, isolation and lack of back up. These are genuine expeditions where experience, fitness and a willingness to 'rough it' are essential. Wild camping is often the only practical means of accommodation.

These have an element of exploration about them. Essentially we decide on a mountain area unknown to Mountain baggers and devise an interesting and challenging 'expedition' the outcome of which can be in doubt throughout. Obviously we hope to fulfill our objectives but realistically can only guarantee start and finish times. If the routes are deemed successful then they become regular ventures in the Mountain baggers programmer. So far not many have achieved this status, but we've certainly had some of our greatest mountain experiences while trying! For this reason we limit such treks to those with a good level of personal experience, an outstanding sense of humor, and high tolerance levels............!!